{"id":8417,"date":"2018-09-27T13:51:43","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T13:51:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.magna.org\/fr\/denisa-augustinova-o-zachrane-lidi-v-nouzi-nesmime-se-bat-strach-nas-vede-ke-zlu-2\/"},"modified":"2022-12-03T15:27:03","modified_gmt":"2022-12-03T15:27:03","slug":"denisa-augustinova-o-zachrane-lidi-v-nouzi-nesmime-se-bat-strach-nas-vede-ke-zlu-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.magna.org\/fr\/sk\/uncategorized\/denisa-augustinova-o-zachrane-lidi-v-nouzi-nesmime-se-bat-strach-nas-vede-ke-zlu-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1 o z\u00e1chrane \u013eud\u00ed v n\u00fadzi: Nesmieme sa b\u00e1\u0165, strach n\u00e1s vedie k zlu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><em>Lie\u010di najtemnej\u0161ie k\u00faty sveta. Zachra\u0148uje \u017eivoty det\u00ed a ich matiek v Afrike \u010di na Bl\u00edzkom v\u00fdchode. \u010comu \u010delia zdravotn\u00edci v S\u00fdrii? Kto br\u00e1ni pomoci Rohingom? A na \u010do sme u\u017e zabudli? Pomoc druh\u00e9mu je najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed dar sebe, pripom\u00edna n\u00e1m spoluzakladate\u013eka humanit\u00e1rnej organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Stret\u00e1vame sa s\u00edce na \u0160tef\u00e1nikovej ulici v Bratislave, ne\u010faleko s\u00eddla va\u0161ej humanit\u00e1rnej organiz\u00e1cie, no u\u017e dlho je Slovensko iba jedn\u00fdm z\u00a0va\u0161ich domovov, ako sama prizn\u00e1vate&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ned\u00e1vno som bola v severnom Iraku. Po\u010das roka sa v\u0161ak sna\u017e\u00edm by\u0165 na ka\u017edej na\u0161ej misii, \u010di u\u017e je to v Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne alebo Libanone, kde pom\u00e1hame s\u00fdrskym ute\u010dencom. Len pr\u00e1ca v S\u00fdrii je ve\u013emi zlo\u017eit\u00e1, MAGNA s\u00edce pom\u00e1ha aj priamo vn\u00fatri S\u00fdrie, ale v\u00a0s\u00fa\u010dasnosti mus\u00edme v\u0161etky aktivity, vr\u00e1tane t\u00fdch vn\u00fatrozemsk\u00fdch, koordinova\u0165 zo s\u00fdrskej hranice.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co sa skomplikovalo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V S\u00fdrii sa od za\u010diatku vojny poru\u0161uj\u00fa v\u0161etky pravidl\u00e1, bezpe\u010dnostn\u00e1 situ\u00e1cia sa v\u0161ak v posledn\u00fdch mesiacoch e\u0161te vyhrotila. Pre pokra\u010duj\u00face boje sme preto museli v\u00a0m\u00e1ji evakuova\u0165 \u010das\u0165 na\u0161ich aktiv\u00edt a premiestni\u0165 nemocnicu aj pacientov zo severn\u00e9ho Homsu do Idlibu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Spomenuli ste provinciu Idlib, posledn\u00fa ba\u0161tu s\u00fdrskych povstalcov, pln\u00fa civilistov aj najr\u00f4znej\u0161\u00edch teroristov. Mas\u00edvna ofenz\u00edva s\u00fdrskych a rusk\u00fdch s\u00edl by sp\u00f4sobila obrovsk\u00fa humanit\u00e1rnu katastrofu. C\u00edti\u0165 to tam vo vzduchu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, ka\u017ed\u00fd jeden de\u0148. Vn\u00fatri S\u00fdrie u\u017e neplat\u00ed ni\u010d. \u017diadne dohody ani scen\u00e1re mo\u017en\u00e9ho v\u00fdvoja konfliktu, s ktor\u00fdmi sa oboznamujeme na pravideln\u00fdch stretnutiach s kolegami z in\u00fdch humanit\u00e1rnych organiz\u00e1ci\u00ed. Moment\u00e1lne je v Idlibe mo\u017en\u00e9 \u010doko\u013evek. Navy\u0161e, podstatn\u00e1 \u010das\u0165 severu S\u00fdrie je u\u017e pod spr\u00e1vou Turecka, a tak na pohyb na\u0161ich mobiln\u00fdch klin\u00edk potrebujeme \u010fal\u0161ie povolenia od viacer\u00fdch akt\u00e9rov vojny.<\/p>\n<p><strong>S\u00fdrska vojna bola spo\u010diatku ob\u010dianskym konfliktom. Po vy\u0161e siedmich rokoch je to plnohodnotn\u00fd s\u00faboj svetov\u00fdch ve\u013emoc\u00ed o vplyv na Bl\u00edzkom v\u00fdchode. Plat\u00ed e\u0161te v tejto vojne, \u017ee na zdravotn\u00edkov a stany s \u010derven\u00fdm kr\u00ed\u017eom sa ne\u00fato\u010d\u00ed? Ste v bezpe\u010d\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, to u\u017e nieko\u013eko rokov neplat\u00ed. S\u00fdria sa stala precedensom nedodr\u017eiavania \u017denevskej konvencie a medzin\u00e1rodn\u00e9ho humanit\u00e1rneho pr\u00e1va. Zdravotn\u00edci s\u00fa ve\u013emi \u010dast\u00fdm cie\u013eom ostre\u013eovania \u010di bombardovania. My sme v okol\u00ed s\u00fdrskeho Homsu dokonca nesmeli ma\u0165 nijako ozna\u010den\u00e9 aut\u00e1, preto\u017ee by sme sa okam\u017eite stali \u013eahk\u00fdm ter\u010dom. Nemocnice s\u00fa dnes v S\u00fdrii jedn\u00fdm z najnebezpe\u010dnej\u0161\u00edch miest. \u017deny nechc\u00fa rodi\u0165 prirodzenou cestou v nemocniciach, preto\u017ee tam nechc\u00fa tr\u00e1vi\u0165 dlh\u00fd \u010das. Preferuj\u00fa cis\u00e1rsky rez alebo nebezpe\u010dn\u00fd dom\u00e1ci p\u00f4rod, boja sa toti\u017e, \u017ee by mohli pr\u00eds\u0165 v nemocnici o \u017eivot aj s die\u0165a\u0165om. V S\u00fdrii nielen\u017ee neplat\u00ed pr\u00e1vny r\u00e1mec, ale aj utrpenie \u013eud\u00ed je neporovnate\u013en\u00e9 s in\u00fdmi konfliktmi. Lek\u00e1ri napr\u00edklad vytvorili nov\u00fd pojem, tzv. \u013eudsk\u00fd devastuj\u00faci syndr\u00f3m \u2013 na op\u00edsanie bolesti, ktor\u00fa utrpeli s\u00fdrske deti \u2013 preto\u017ee ich pr\u00edznaky \u010faleko prevy\u0161uj\u00fa posttraumatick\u00fa stresov\u00fa poruchu. Zdravotn\u00edci lie\u010diaci deti, ktor\u00e9 pre\u017eili, tvrdia, \u017ee devast\u00e1cia a trval\u00e9 d\u00f4sledky du\u0161evn\u00e9ho zdravia \u010faleko presahuj\u00fa ak\u00e9ko\u013evek pr\u00edznaky, ktor\u00e9 predt\u00fdm videli.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ke\u010f\u017ee sa S\u00fdr\u010dania, vr\u00e1tane ute\u010dencov, rad\u0161ej vyh\u00fdbaj\u00fa nemocniciam, znamen\u00e1 to, \u017ee chod\u00edte za pacientmi priamo domov a do kempov?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V r\u00e1mci poskytovania zdravotnej starostlivosti je to r\u00f4zne. V okol\u00ed Homsu sme pracovali tak, \u017ee sme chodili do kempov pre vys\u00eddlen\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed u\u0161li z r\u00f4znych \u010dast\u00ed S\u00fdrie, niektor\u00ed aj opakovane, ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 sme prev\u00e1dzkovali aj nemocnice, traumatologick\u00e9 oddelenie, p\u00f4rodnicu \u010di krvn\u00e9 banky. Rovnako je to aj na turecko-s\u00fdrskej hranici. Jednoducho, mus\u00edme ma\u0165 v\u017edy aj miesto, kde pacientov v urgentnom stave o\u0161etr\u00edme a hospitalizujeme. V S\u00fdrii toti\u017e pr\u00eddu \u013eudia za lek\u00e1rom a\u017e ke\u010f im je u\u017e ve\u013emi zle.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je u\u017e S\u00fdria, ktorej chce op\u00e4\u0165 vl\u00e1dnu\u0165 dikt\u00e1tor Ba\u0161\u0161\u00e1r al-Asad, pripraven\u00e1 na n\u00e1vrat st\u00e1tis\u00edcov ute\u010dencov?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ni\u010d sa nezmenilo. Krajina je \u00faplne zdevastovan\u00e1 a obnova infra\u0161trukt\u00fary vr\u00e1tane zdravotn\u00edckych siet\u00ed viazne. V mnoh\u00fdch \u010dastiach s\u00fa zbombardovan\u00e9 cel\u00e9 mest\u00e1. Pre n\u00e1vrat ute\u010dencov e\u0161te nie s\u00fa vytvoren\u00e9 podmienky, ve\u010f nebezpe\u010dn\u00e9 a preplnen\u00e9 s\u00fa aj kempy pre vn\u00fatorne vys\u00eddlen\u00fdch S\u00fdr\u010danov. \u010casto sa na tieto t\u00e1bory \u00fato\u010d\u00ed, a tak sa \u013eudia pres\u00favaj\u00fa \u010falej. Neust\u00e1le migruj\u00fa v r\u00e1mci krajiny, v\u017edy tam, kde je to v danom \u010dase relat\u00edvne bezpe\u010dn\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pom\u00e1hate \u013eu\u010fom v n\u00fadzi bez oh\u013eadu na ich vek, pohlavie, rasu, etnick\u00fa pr\u00edslu\u0161nos\u0165 \u010di vierovyznanie. Napriek tomu ma zauj\u00edma, ak\u00e9 skupiny \u013eud\u00ed v\u00a0S\u00fdrii o\u0161etrujete naj\u010dastej\u0161ie?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pracujeme v oblastiach, kde \u017eij\u00fa vys\u00eddlen\u00ed \u013eudia z celej S\u00fdrie. Ke\u010f sa za\u010dne bombardovanie, m\u00f4\u017ee pr\u00eds\u0165 v kr\u00e1tkom \u010dase o \u017eivot ve\u013emi ve\u013ea \u013eud\u00ed. Samozrejme, \u017ee o\u0161etrujeme v\u0161etk\u00fdch, ktor\u00ed to potrebuj\u00fa, s\u00fa zranen\u00ed alebo chor\u00ed. Na\u0161e projekty s\u00fa v\u0161ak v\u00e4\u010d\u0161inou zameran\u00e9 na matky s de\u0165mi, na p\u00f4rodn\u00fa a pop\u00f4rodn\u00fa, respekt\u00edve novorodeneck\u00fa starostlivos\u0165. V r\u00e1mci mobilnej kliniky o\u0161etrujeme najm\u00e4 deti do p\u00e4\u0165 rokov a star\u0161\u00edch \u013eud\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ko\u013eko \u013eud\u00ed teraz v S\u00fdrii poskytuje zdravotn\u00fa, nutri\u010dn\u00fa a soci\u00e1lnu pomoc pod hlavi\u010dkou va\u0161ej organiz\u00e1cie?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V\u00e4\u010d\u0161inou ide o zdravotn\u00edkov alebo logistick\u00fdch pracovn\u00edkov, ktor\u00ed pom\u00e1haj\u00fa s\u00a0presunom liekov. M\u00e1me tam dve ve\u013ek\u00e9 nemocnice a dve mobiln\u00e9 kliniky, tak\u017ee v\u00e4\u010d\u0161inu pracovn\u00edkov tvor\u00ed, samozrejme, zdravotn\u00edcky person\u00e1l. Ide pribli\u017ene o osemdesiat \u013eud\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Netaj\u00edte sa t\u00fdm, \u017ee jedn\u00fdm z domovov pre v\u00e1s a va\u0161u rodinu sa stala Kambod\u017ea. Pre\u010do pr\u00e1ve t\u00e1to krajina v juhov\u00fdchodnej \u00c1zii? \u010co v\u00e1s tam priviedlo?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>V minulosti sme tam sp\u00fa\u0161\u0165ali najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed projekt pre epid\u00e9miu AIDS v \u00c1zii. Spolu s\u00a0n\u00e1rodn\u00fdm programom sa n\u00e1m postupne podarilo zn\u00ed\u017ei\u0165 po\u010det nakazen\u00fdch v\u00edrusom HIV a aj po\u010det prenosov z matky na die\u0165a. Dnes v Kambod\u017ei poskytujeme chronick\u00fdm pacientom aj psychosoci\u00e1lnu pomoc a motivujeme ich, aby pokra\u010dovali v lie\u010dbe a nepo\u013eavovali. Stali sme sa pre kambod\u017esk\u00fa vl\u00e1du ak\u00fdmsi n\u00e1rodn\u00fdm mentorom.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Je to teda pozit\u00edvny pr\u00edklad toho, ako by mali \u00farady spolupracova\u0165 s humanit\u00e1rnymi neziskov\u00fdmi organiz\u00e1ciami?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Za\u010diatok bol komplikovan\u00fd, preto\u017ee Kambod\u017ea si najsk\u00f4r nechcela prizna\u0165, \u017ee m\u00e1 probl\u00e9m s HIV\/AIDS. Priznan\u00fd probl\u00e9m predsa len znamen\u00e1, \u017ee budete musie\u0165 investova\u0165 nemal\u00e9 prostriedky do n\u00e1pravy. Spo\u010diatku humanit\u00e1rne organiz\u00e1cie s kambod\u017esk\u00fdmi autoritami bojovali, ale postupne sa n\u00e1m podarilo rozvin\u00fa\u0165 dial\u00f3g a komunik\u00e1cia sa dnes zd\u00e1 uk\u00e1\u017ekov\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p><strong>V minulosti mala MAGNA v r\u00e1mci \u00c1zie ve\u013ek\u00e9 humanit\u00e1rne misie napr\u00edklad aj v Indii, Nep\u00e1le, Mjanmarsku \u010di na Filip\u00ednach. Boli ste tam po ni\u010div\u00fdch pr\u00edrodn\u00fdch katastrof\u00e1ch. Dnes v\u0161ak v Mjanmarsku zab\u00edja \u013eud\u00ed priamo \u010dlovek. OSN hovor\u00ed, \u017ee mjanmarsk\u00e1 arm\u00e1da sa na moslimskej men\u0161ine Rohingov dopustila etnick\u00fdch \u010distiek. St\u00e1tis\u00edce \u013eud\u00ed museli ujs\u0165 zo svojich domovov. Pok\u00fa\u0161ali ste sa im nejako pom\u00f4c\u0165?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Moment\u00e1lne to nejde. Pre n\u00e1s, ako aj pre \u010fal\u0161ie organiz\u00e1cie, ktor\u00e9 chc\u00fa pom\u00e1ha\u0165 slobodne a zavies\u0165 projekt pod\u013ea vlastn\u00fdch predst\u00e1v je to nemo\u017en\u00e9. Mjanmarsk\u00e9 \u00farady n\u00e1m neumo\u017enili ani len vstup do niektor\u00fdch oblast\u00ed a podmienky pomoci, ktor\u00e9 stanovili, sme odmietli splni\u0165. Chceli n\u00e1m ur\u010dova\u0165, komu m\u00e1me pom\u00e1ha\u0165 a rozhodne ne\u0161lo o t\u00fdch, ktor\u00ed by pomoc potrebovali najviac.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co konkr\u00e9tne od v\u00e1s e\u0161te po\u017eadovala mjanmarsk\u00e1 vl\u00e1da, ktorej s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou je, mimochodom, aj dr\u017eite\u013eka Nobelovej ceny za mier, niekdaj\u0161ia disidentka Su-\u0164ij?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Humanit\u00e1rne organiz\u00e1cie museli splni\u0165 ur\u010dit\u00e9 krit\u00e9ri\u00e1 a tie mal po\u010das trvania projektu kontrolova\u0165 niekto z vl\u00e1dy. To by nebol a\u017e tak\u00fd probl\u00e9m, my predsa s\u00a0\u00faradmi spolupracujeme, ale v tomto pr\u00edpade to bolo sk\u00f4r o tom, \u017ee sme dostali presn\u00e9 in\u0161trukcie komu, v ktorej \u010dasti a ako smieme pom\u00e1ha\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pom\u00e1ha\u0165 moslimskej men\u0161ine Rohingov by v\u00e1m neumo\u017enili?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Nie, neumo\u017enili. Ale netvrd\u00edm, \u017ee sa to v nejakej miere nemohlo podari\u0165 in\u00fdm organiz\u00e1ci\u00e1m. Av\u0161ak v \u010dase, ke\u010f sme sa o to pok\u00fa\u0161ali my, sa to skon\u010dilo takto.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co je pod\u013ea v\u00e1s hlavnou pr\u00ed\u010dinou utrpenia moslimov v preva\u017ene buddhistickom Mjanmarsku?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ten probl\u00e9m je ove\u013ea hlb\u0161\u00ed, exodus Rohingov je len vrcholom \u013eadovca. Hlavn\u00ed a najvplyvnej\u0161\u00ed predstavitelia vojensk\u00e9ho re\u017eimu v Mjanmarsku sa toti\u017e nevymenili, st\u00e1le maj\u00fa moc.<\/p>\n<p>Okrem toho, a to plat\u00ed v\u0161eobecne v konfliktoch po celom svete, sme tie\u017e svedkami nedodr\u017eiavania humanit\u00e1rneho pr\u00e1va. D\u00f4kazom je genoc\u00edda v Mjanmarsku, nie\u010doho podobn\u00e9ho sme svedkami v Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne \u010di Kongu, pritom tamoj\u0161ie kr\u00edzy s\u00fa aj napriek ve\u013ek\u00e9mu po\u010dtu ute\u010dencov a m\u0155tvych svetom prehliadan\u00e9. Opakovan\u00e9 poru\u0161ovanie medzin\u00e1rodn\u00e9ho humanit\u00e1rneho pr\u00e1va m\u00e1 za n\u00e1sledok dva probl\u00e9my. Okrem \u017eivotov nevinn\u00fdch ignoranciu jeho implik\u00e1cie a rovnako probl\u00e9m na strane darcov. T\u00ed paradoxne pozastavuj\u00fa pomoc k\u00fdm bude v krajine bezpe\u010dnej\u0161ie pr\u00e1ve v \u010dase, ke\u010f n\u00e1s pacienti potrebuj\u00fa najviac.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n sa ledva zrodil, u\u017e umiera. Najmlad\u0161\u00ed \u0161t\u00e1t sveta \u010del\u00ed vojne, suchu a hladomoru, pritom by v\u010faka z\u00e1sob\u00e1m ropy mohol by\u0165 jednou z\u00a0najbohat\u0161\u00edch kraj\u00edn sveta. Ocitli ste sa u\u017e vy alebo va\u0161i kolegovia v Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne v nebezpe\u010denstve?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, na na\u0161e zdravotn\u00e9 zariadenie a ve\u013ek\u00fa nemocnicu u\u017e za\u00fato\u010dili viackr\u00e1t. Probl\u00e9m je, \u017ee sa s t\u00fdm ni\u010d ned\u00e1 robi\u0165. \u00dato\u010dn\u00edci vedia, \u017ee to nikto nepr\u00edde vy\u0161etri\u0165 ani vypo\u010du\u0165 svedkov. V Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne p\u00f4sob\u00edme v dvoch oblastiach. V najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161om kempe pre vn\u00fatorne vys\u00eddlen\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed v okol\u00ed metropoly Juba, kde o\u010dkujeme a poskytujeme aj \u010fal\u0161iu zdravotn\u00fa starostlivos\u0165. Pracujeme v\u0161ak aj v \u0161t\u00e1te Jongolei, jednom z najnebezpe\u010dnej\u0161\u00edch \u0161t\u00e1tov Ju\u017en\u00e9ho Sud\u00e1nu. Tam o\u0161etrujeme deti do p\u00e4\u0165 rokov, tehotn\u00e9 \u017eeny a m\u00e1me tam aj ve\u013ek\u00fd nutri\u010dn\u00fd program, preto\u017ee s\u00fa v neust\u00e1lom ohrozen\u00ed nielen konfliktom, ale aj hladomorom a chorobami.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z Ju\u017en\u00e9ho Sud\u00e1nu utiekli do susedn\u00fdch kraj\u00edn st\u00e1tis\u00edce \u013eud\u00ed, krajina je pre vojnu v trosk\u00e1ch. Kde vid\u00edte rie\u0161enie takejto hlbokej kr\u00edzy?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n \u010del\u00ed mnoh\u00fdm probl\u00e9mom a jedn\u00fdm z nich je, \u017ee ve\u013ek\u00e1 v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina \u013eud\u00ed je tam negramotn\u00e1 a desa\u0165ro\u010dia trvaj\u00faci konflikt vedie \u013eud\u00ed rie\u0161i\u0165 v\u00e4\u010d\u0161inu probl\u00e9mov n\u00e1sil\u00edm, na ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa tak zvyknut\u00ed. Av\u0161ak nov\u00fd \u0161t\u00e1t, to nie je nejak\u00e1 krabica, ktor\u00fa iba zapoj\u00edte do elektriny a ona bude svieti\u0165. Potrebujete odborn\u00edkov a inteligenciu. V Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne je nedostatok \u013eudsk\u00fdch zdrojov, \u013eu\u010fom ch\u00fdba vzdelanie a ka\u017ed\u00fd probl\u00e9m rie\u0161ia konfliktom. Ako v jednej z m\u00e1la kraj\u00edn na svete tu m\u00f4\u017eu pod\u00e1va\u0165 lieky aj \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed nemaj\u00fa zdravotn\u00edcke vzdelanie. D\u00e1vame im krabi\u010dky s liekmi pod\u013ea farby, teda bez n\u00e1zvov, no oni vedia, ktor\u00e1 farba je ak\u00fd liek..<\/p>\n<p><strong>A to v\u0161etko v krajine, kde vl\u00e1dne bezpr\u00e1vie, anarchia a zbrane m\u00e1 takmer ka\u017ed\u00fd&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ozbrojen\u00ed s\u00fa pomaly v\u0161etci. Star\u00e1 gener\u00e1cia vojakov, ktor\u00ed mali e\u0161te ak\u00fa tak\u00fa vojensk\u00fa kult\u00faru, vymrela a ostali mlad\u00ed, vychovan\u00ed gerilou bez pravidiel. Civilisti sa nec\u00edtia bezpe\u010dne a krajina sa zmieta v nedostatku a neistote. V Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne nefunguje absol\u00fatne ni\u010d, pravidl\u00e1 sa menia zo d\u0148a na de\u0148. K hladomoru v\u0161ak nedo\u0161lo n\u00e1hle. My sme v\u00eddavali podvy\u017eiven\u00e9 deti a tehotn\u00e9 \u017eeny dlhodobo, pr\u00edznaky n\u00e1m boli zn\u00e1me a upozor\u0148ovali sme na to medzin\u00e1rodn\u00e9 spolo\u010denstvo, no Organiz\u00e1cia spojen\u00fdch n\u00e1rodov (OSN) nebola schopn\u00e1 vymyslie\u0165 sp\u00f4sob, ako \u013eu\u010fom v Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne pom\u00f4c\u0165. Ni\u010d sa nestalo Ba\u0161\u0161\u00e1rovi al-Asadovi za to, \u010do sp\u00e1chal v S\u00fdrii a pokojn\u00fd m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 aj prezident Ju\u017en\u00e9ho Sud\u00e1nu Salva Kiir. \u010co sa mu asi tak stane za tie tis\u00edce m\u0155tvych a mili\u00f3ny podvy\u017eiven\u00fdch \u010di vys\u00eddlen\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ohrozenie humanit\u00e1rnych pracovn\u00edkov bojmi je jedna vec, ale \u010do rob\u00edte, ke\u010f sa o slovo prihl\u00e1si pr\u00edroda a krajinou sa roz\u0161\u00edri napr\u00edklad epid\u00e9mia eboly. Pri\u0161li ste s \u0148ou v Kongu do kontaktu?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00c1no, na\u0161im pracovn\u00edkom sa to st\u00e1va. Vtedy zav\u00e1dzame v\u00fdnimo\u010dn\u00e9 opatrenia, na\u0161i kolegovia maj\u00fa \u0161peci\u00e1lny tr\u00e9ning a aj oble\u010denie \u010di vybavenie. Postup koordinujeme so Svetovou zdravotn\u00edckou organiz\u00e1ciou (WHO) aj ministerstvom. \u013dudia v krajin\u00e1ch, kde p\u00f4sob\u00edme, v\u0161ak umieraj\u00fa aj na desiatky in\u00fdch chor\u00f4b, to len tu u n\u00e1s sa hovor\u00ed iba o ebole. Pritom mnoh\u00e9 z nich vieme lie\u010di\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ako sa \u017eije v Kongu v porovnan\u00ed s \u201eposlednou\u201c krajinou sveta, teda Ju\u017en\u00fdm Sud\u00e1nom?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kongo na tom nie je z poh\u013eadu humanit\u00e1rnej situ\u00e1cie ove\u013ea lep\u0161ie ako Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n. Rozdiel je v tom, \u017ee Kongo malo do istej miery vybudovan\u00e9 in\u0161tit\u00facie, k\u00fdm Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n vznikol uprostred Afriky z ni\u010doho a bez akejko\u013evek sk\u00fasenosti s riaden\u00edm a in\u0161tit\u00faciami. V Kongu je vojna skryt\u00e1, arm\u00e1da m\u00e1 s\u00edce ist\u00fa autoritu, no doch\u00e1dza k \u010dast\u00fdm bojom, poru\u0161ovaniu \u013eudsk\u00fdch pr\u00e1v, vra\u017edeniu. V Ju\u017enom Sud\u00e1ne vl\u00e1dne anarchia a t\u00e1 otv\u00e1ra \u013eu\u010fom cestu k p\u00e1chaniu zverstiev. Jedna na\u0161a kolegy\u0148a, ktor\u00e1 vedie vakcina\u010dn\u00fd program v Jube, hovor\u00ed, \u017ee \u010fakuje za ka\u017ed\u00e9 nov\u00e9 r\u00e1no. O tom je Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n, ka\u017ed\u00fd sa te\u0161\u00ed, \u017ee sa r\u00e1no zobud\u00ed a ve\u010der si m\u00e1 kde \u013eahn\u00fa\u0165. V Kongu sa \u013eudia mo\u017eno c\u00edtia \u010diasto\u010dne bezpe\u010dnej\u0161ie a aj na ministerstv\u00e1ch s\u00fa u\u017e \u013eudia so sk\u00fasenos\u0165ami, s ktor\u00fdmi sa d\u00e1 komunikova\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ako sa vedenie humanit\u00e1rnej organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA rozhoduje, kde bud\u00fa jej zdravotn\u00edci p\u00f4sobi\u0165 o nieko\u013eko mesiacov, o rok \u010di o dva? Od \u010doho to z\u00e1vis\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Venujeme sa predov\u0161etk\u00fdm na\u0161ej expert\u00edze, teda reproduk\u010dn\u00e9mu zdraviu, materskej starostlivosti a podv\u00fd\u017eive. Moment\u00e1lne s\u00fa z tohto poh\u013eadu na tom krajiny ako Ju\u017en\u00fd Sud\u00e1n, S\u00fdria a Kongo naozaj ve\u013emi zle. Pracujeme aj v irackom Kurdistane \u010di Mosule a u\u017e \u010doskoro by sme sa chceli dosta\u0165 do Jemenu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>V\u00e1\u0161 \u017eivot je do ve\u013ekej miery ovplyvnen\u00fd t\u00fdm, \u010domu sa aj s man\u017eelom, zakladate\u013eom a riadite\u013eom organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA Martinom Band\u017e\u00e1kom, venujete. Cestuj\u00fa s vami do kr\u00edzov\u00fdch oblast\u00ed aj va\u0161e dc\u00e9ry?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Do nebezpe\u010dn\u00fdch oblast\u00ed ur\u010dite nie. Na som\u00e1lskej hranici bola star\u0161ia, dnes desa\u0165ro\u010dn\u00e1 dc\u00e9ra s nami, ale samozrejme \u017ee nechodila do rizikov\u00fdch oblast\u00ed. Teraz, ke\u010f u\u017e obe dc\u00e9ry podr\u00e1stli a chodia v Kambod\u017ei do \u0161koly, je to pre n\u00e1s ve\u013ek\u00e1 v\u00fdzva. Na\u0161\u0165astie mi pom\u00e1ha moja mama a diev\u010dat\u00e1 s\u00fa \u0161ikovn\u00e9, preto ich u\u010dite\u013eky p\u00fa\u0161\u0165aj\u00fa zo \u0161koly a m\u00f4\u017eu sa v\u017edy zapoji\u0165 do vyu\u010dovania v inej krajine, ako napr\u00edklad pred \u010dasom v libanonskom Bejr\u00fate.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ak\u00fd maj\u00fa va\u0161e dc\u00e9ry vz\u0165ah k chor\u00fdm \u010di zranen\u00fdm de\u0165om, ktor\u00fdm pr\u00e1ve pom\u00e1hate?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Star\u0161ia dc\u00e9ra dok\u00e1zala od det\u00ed zo S\u00fdrie z\u00edska\u0165 l\u00e1mavou angli\u010dtinou, franc\u00faz\u0161tinou \u010di sloven\u010dinou tak\u00e9 inform\u00e1cie, ak\u00e9 nemali ani na\u0161i terapeuti, ktor\u00ed komunikovali v arab\u010dine. St\u00e1le hovor\u00edm, \u017ee deti maj\u00fa v sebe nie\u010do magick\u00e9. S\u00fa ve\u013emi vn\u00edmav\u00e9, maj\u00fa \u00fa\u017easn\u00fa mieru empatie, ktor\u00fa dospel\u00ed \u010dasto potla\u010duj\u00fa. Dc\u00e9ra bola so mnou aj na Filip\u00ednach a po tajf\u00fane Yolanda v r\u00e1mci psychologickej pomoci dok\u00e1zala \u013eud\u00ed naladi\u0165 tak, \u017ee sa s nami \u013eah\u0161ie podelili so svojimi staros\u0165ami a probl\u00e9mami. Ke\u010f mala star\u0161ia dc\u00e9ra tri roky, videla na ulici hladn\u00e9 deti, dala im sama od seba svoje jedlo a rob\u00ed to dodnes. Sna\u017e\u00edm sa, aby moje dc\u00e9ry videli, \u017ee nem\u00e1me robi\u0165 rozdiely a pomoc m\u00e1 by\u0165 automatick\u00e1. Nem\u00e1me sa p\u00fdta\u0165.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vy sa v\u0161ak pravidelne vraciate na Slovensko, kde by mnoh\u00ed vrcholov\u00ed politici, tak ako aj l\u00eddri v susedn\u00fdch krajin\u00e1ch, pomoc n\u00fadznym, napr\u00edklad ute\u010dencom, iba podmie\u0148ovali. To je presn\u00fd opak toho, \u010do rob\u00edte vy. Ako sa s t\u00fdm vyrovn\u00e1vate?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Cel\u00fd \u017eivot sa u\u010d\u00edm nema\u0165 \u017eiadne o\u010dak\u00e1vania, lebo tie ved\u00fa k strate il\u00fazi\u00ed a sklamaniu. \u010clovek by predpokladal, \u017ee vo vzdelanej Eur\u00f3pe nem\u00e1me otras mozgu a pam\u00e4t\u00e1me si, \u010do sa kedysi stalo n\u00e1m a ako sme museli migrova\u0165. U\u017e sa v\u0161ak potvrdilo, \u017ee str\u00e1came pam\u00e4\u0165 a asi sa m\u00e1me ve\u013emi dobre, ke\u010f sa nech\u00e1vame opi\u0165 dezinform\u00e1ciami a nevid\u00edme \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed utekaj\u00fa pred vojnou, smr\u0165ou \u010di hladom. Kde berieme pr\u00e1vo poveda\u0165, \u017ee niekam nem\u00f4\u017eu pr\u00eds\u0165? Nepopierate\u013ene musia fungova\u0165 pravidl\u00e1 a ochrana. Nie som za anarchiu ani za to, aby si ka\u017ed\u00fd robil, \u010do chce a chodil, kam chce. Sna\u017e\u00edm sa v\u0161ak nestrati\u0165 pochopenie pre obe strany. Rozumiem, pre\u010do sa \u013eudia boja niektor\u00fdch vec\u00ed. Ale ten strach n\u00e1s nesmie ovl\u00e1dnu\u0165, lebo to je to jedin\u00e9, \u010do n\u00e1s zv\u00e4zuje a vedie k zl\u00fdm rozhodnutiam. Ak by sme sa zbavili strachu, mali by sme v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ie pochopenie pre t\u00fdch druh\u00fdch.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co m\u00f4\u017ee urobi\u0165 jednotlivec, aby to zmenil? Ako m\u00f4\u017ee pom\u00f4c\u0165?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mus\u00ed sa presta\u0165 b\u00e1\u0165 a vedie\u0165 sa pozrie\u0165 na veci aj bez pocitu vlastn\u00e9ho ohrozenia. A aj bez svojho ve\u013ek\u00e9ho ega, ktor\u00e9 ho vedie k tomu, \u017ee nevie, pre\u010do by mal pom\u00e1ha\u0165. No predsa preto, lebo pomoc druh\u00e9mu je najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed dar sebe.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1 (1977)<\/strong> \u2013 je spoluzakladate\u013ekou a riadite\u013ekou opera\u010dnej sekcie slovenskej humanit\u00e1rnej organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA. Narodila v Bratislave, kde vy\u0161tudovala soci\u00e1lnu pr\u00e1cu. V roku 2001 spolu so svoj\u00edm teraj\u0161\u00edm man\u017eelom, fotografom Martinom Band\u017e\u00e1kom, zalo\u017eila humanit\u00e1rnu organiz\u00e1ciu a odvtedy stoj\u00ed pri implement\u00e1cii v\u00e4\u010d\u0161iny jej misi\u00ed vo svete. V\u00e4\u010d\u0161inu roka p\u00f4sob\u00ed v Kambod\u017ei, kde MAGNA realizuje projekty zameran\u00e9 na HIV\/AIDS a podv\u00fd\u017eivu a odkia\u013e koordinuje aktivity svete. Je matkou dvoch dc\u00e9r.<\/p>\n<p>Autor: Mat\u00fa\u0161 D\u00e1vid<\/p>\n<p>Zdroj: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tyzden.sk\/rozhovory\/50676\/denisa-augustinova-o-zachrane-ludi-v-nudzi-nesmieme-sa-bat-strach-nas-vedie-k-zlu\/\">.t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148.sk<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1, zakladatelka organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA, poskytla exkluz\u00edvny rozhovor slovensk\u00e9mu \u010dasopisu .t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148. Hovor\u00ed v \u0148om o aktu\u00e1lnych podmienkach na MAGNA mis\u00edch na Bl\u00edzkom V\u00fdchode a v Afrike a o celkovej humanit\u00e1rnej situ\u00e1ci\u00ed vo svete. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 n\u00e1m pripom\u00edna, \u017ee pomoc druh\u00e9mu je najv\u00e4\u010d\u0161\u00ed dar sebe.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8419,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"post_country":[],"post_year":[],"post_layout":[],"post_topic":[],"class_list":["post-8417","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.3 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1 o z\u00e1chrane \u013eud\u00ed v n\u00fadzi: Nesmieme sa b\u00e1\u0165, strach n\u00e1s vedie k zlu - Magna<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.magna.org\/fr\/sk\/uncategorized\/denisa-augustinova-o-zachrane-lidi-v-nouzi-nesmime-se-bat-strach-nas-vede-ke-zlu-2\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1 o z\u00e1chrane \u013eud\u00ed v n\u00fadzi: Nesmieme sa b\u00e1\u0165, strach n\u00e1s vedie k zlu - Magna\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Denisa August\u00ednov\u00e1, zakladatelka organiz\u00e1cie MAGNA, poskytla exkluz\u00edvny rozhovor slovensk\u00e9mu \u010dasopisu .t\u00fd\u017ede\u0148. 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